The story behind some of J Dilla's greatest productions

- Fader 42
- December 01, 2006
Interviews with Common, Kweli, Ma Dukes, Badu, Phat Kat and others by Egon, Eric Ducker and Edwin Houghton, originally published by Fader, 2006.
Think twice, youngbloods, precocious hoodrats, beatbox prodigies. Somewhere
in the fine print of the job description for "Revolutionary Black
Genius" is a clause that reads, "Must die young." Producer
and rapper J Dilla departure from terra firma earlier this year at the
age of 32 is proof that there's no escaping the curse, and his killer-Lupus-related
blood disease-is enough to make you believe in conspiracy theories of
cosmic proportions. If you make music, it's almost enough to make you
want to give it up altogether, except Dilla was so damn good at what he
did, he probably made you want to give up even when he was still living.
The discography of J Dilla (born James Yancey) is brief in time, but prolific
in output and wide in scope. Since he passed, there's been a flood of
testimonials to his brilliance and his untouchable status as your favorite
producers favorite producer, but if those eulogies have enshrined Dilla
as a minor deity to beat makers and 12-inch connoisseurs, then no doubt
he's the type of god who is properly worshipped with drums, not hymns
of praise. So take these firsthand accounts from the various divas, rappers,
soul cats and family members whose collective minds he blew when making
music not as props for props sake, but as story problems for your MPC,
object lessons in how to do it right .... And get back to work.
J Dilla - "Lightworks"
Donuts (Stones Throw, 2006) | iTunes
MAUREEN YANCEY (J Dilla's mother): I knew he was working on a series of beat CDs before he came to Los Angeles.
Donuts was a special project that he hadn't named yet. This was the tail
end of his "Dill Withers" phase, while he was living in Clinton
Township, Michigan. You see, musically he went into different phases.
He'd start on a project, go back, go buy more records and then go back
to working on the project again. I saw it because I was at his house every
day, all day. I would go there for breakfast, go back to Detroit to check
on the daycare business I was running, and then back to his house for
lunch and dinner. He was on a special diet and he was a funny eater anyway.
He had to take 15 different medications, we would split them up between
meals, and every other day we would binge on a brownie sundae from Big
Boys. That was his treat. I didn't know about the actual album Donuts
until I came to Los Angeles to stay indefinitely. I got a glimpse of the
music during one of the hospital stays, around his 31st birthday, when
[friend and producer] House Shoes came out from Detroit to visit him.
I would sneak in and listen to the work in progress while he was in dialysis.
He got furious when he found out I was listening to his music! He didn't
want me to listen to anything until it was a finished product. He was
working in the hospital. He tried to go over each beat and make sure that
it was something different and make sure that there was nothing that he
wanted to change . "Lightworks," oh yes, that was something!
That's one of the special ones. It was so different. It blended classical
music (way out there classical), commercial and underground at the same
time.
Phat Kat - "Don't
Nobody Care About Us"
Dedication to the Suckers 12-inch (House Shoes, 1999)
PHAT KAT: There were multiple beats that I'd already rapped on that ended up on
the beat tapes that Dilla sent out and that somebody bought. When the
industry started jumping on the Dilla bandwagon, they was getting scraps.
He kept all the hot shit for himself and the crew. After we'd seen that
people were jumping on all the stuff he was doing, everything that me
and Dilla recorded, we did it right on the spot. That's why I always got
the freshest shit. That whole "Dedication to the Suckas" 12-inch-I
bullshit you not-we started around 8 o'clock in the evening, we was done
by 11. He would load the beats up and leave or talk on the phone, let
me do my rhymes, come back and the verses were done, it's a wrap.
Black Star - "Little
Brother"
Music From and Inspired by The Hurricane (MCA, 2000)
TALIB KWELI: At that point J Dilla was still an enigma to me, but I was very excited
about working with him. Mos [Def] had gotten his beat tape that was circulating
and it had a couple beats on it that Mos wanted to use. With a producer
like Dilla, a lot of his shit was so orchestrated and sounded so right
that you'd be like, "Yeah, that's how I want it to sound." Mos
took the beat tape to Electric Lady, we laid rough vocals and we wanted
to get Gil Scot-Heron to sing on it, so Mos sang the little brother..
part and we got in touch with Gil Scot-Heron a week later. When he got
there he was like, "I need to take a nap," and he slept for
like three hours. Then he woke up and he sang it, but it didn't sound
right. At this point Wendy Goldstein at Capitol was like, "We need
it for the soundtrack!" She had the rough version with Mos singing
and Gil Scott-Heron was supposed to come back the next day. A week later
we were still trying to get Gil Scott back in the studio and I heard the
song on a mixtape that had been sent out for the album and I got upset
because I was like, "We didn't get to hear the mixdown, it wasn't
approved. I know Dilla didn't get to hear the mixdown."
Common - "Nag
Champa"
Like Water for Chocolate (MCA, 2000) | iTunes
COMMON: When I was working on Like Water for Chocolate I would go to Detroit
like two to three times a month. When we would go to Jay Dee's basement
we would always burn nag champa incense, that's where I got that title
from. I was listening to Slum Village a lot, so I was influenced by them.
With "Nag Champa," which was either the first or the second
song for Like Water for Chocolate, we had it for a long time with no chorus.
We kept trying but there wasn't nothing good coming out. I took T3 and
them to the studio to work with me on the chorus; T3 started chanting
something, he didn't finish, but he had a little idea. Jay Dee heard and
started really singing it and got it together. Jay had an incredible voice-he
actually was going to do a singing album. We used to talk about that when
he would stay in LA.
Slum Village - "Get
Dis Money"
Fantastic Vol. 2 (Goodvibe, 2000)
T3: The drum programming on "Get Dis Money" is a little off. Dilla
didn't like to use a metronome or whatever, so some would be slightly
off beat, but on purpose. It's just the way his ear was, crazy. What's
funny about "Get Dis Money" is that Baatin wrote three verses
before we liked one, me and Dilla was being real hard on his rhyme. If
you listen to Vol 1 and Vol 2, Baatin don't talk about the topic at all.
It ended up being like we was doing it on purpose, but originally it was
not on purpose. Dilla was more upset than anybody about staying on topic.
Baatin would just talk about anything. The song is about getting money
and the pursuit of it, a real simple concept, and Baatin would just start
talking bout his family and then go over here and over there ... you ain't
know where he's going! Even with three verses, Dilla still took out a
part of his rhyme on the final version, kind of faded him out on the end
of that song.
Erykah Badu - "Didn't
Cha Know"
Mama's Gun (Motown, 2000) | iTunes
ERYKAH BADU: I went to Detroit to work with this cat that I heard a few tracks from
that drove me crazy. Common took me over there, we went down to the basement,
Common left and Dilla and I sat and talked. He had records wall-to-wall
like it was a public library and he goes, "OK, I want you to look
for a record." I'm leaking through these organized, tightly packed
crates, and I just pulled out one record and the artist was Tarika Blue.
I liked that name. I put on the first track ["Dreamflower"]
and I fell in love with the song and I kept playing it over and over again
and I said, "I want this." He showed me how to loop a small
part of the bassline, he was very generous in teaching you and letting
you be hands on. Then I left the room and when I came back he had looped
some drums to a small sample of the song and I started to write to it.
I came up with the Ooooh, heeeey melody. I wrote for a few days and then
the song came to be. My songs sound different from everyone else's Dilla
songs. The sound is a little bit more bass heavy and the frequencies are
definitely different than most of the songs he does, because it's his
world. But when he allowed me to come into his world, it became another
kind of world. I think he allowed everybody that kind of space and that
kind of freedom because he was so super creative that he would go onto
something else while we learned the first part.
Frank N Dank "Keep
It Comin"
48 Hours (unreleased 2003)
DANK: "Keep It Comin'" was the era when we recorded 48 Hours for
MCA-that's just about coming up out of the hood because we finally crossed
that barrier. "Keep It Comin" was like the wrap up, that was
just the last song we recorded for that record. ?uestlove from the Roots
played the drums, and everything was played live. We had a sample version
of it before, but [Dilla] was like, "I want to play this all live."
We used the traditional drums, tambourines, shakers, Mexican shakers,
old school cowbells, the old school Moog, trombone. That record created
Dilla. Everybody knew Jay Dee, Jay Dee sampled everything and chopped.
Dilla was about playing live instruments.
Jaylib - "Champion
Sound"
Champion Sound (Stones Throw, 2003) | iTunes
MADLIB: "Champion Sound" was one of my favorite cuts, it stood out
amongst all of the other joints in the first batch of Jaylib songs he
sent to me. I didn't think he would pick that beat, it was one of the
dirtiest tracks on the beat CDs I sent to him. But that fit perfect. That
track is running, like rolling in your car. His lyrics made that shit
even harder. And the concept ... What! What! Someone else could have rapped
over it, but it wouldn't have been the same. I remember when we would
perform that song, the crowd would get super hype. I wouldn't even say
his lyrics, I would just do 'em with steps. I'd just be watching him.
Too hype. Flowing with my steps, Thelonious style. That's one of my favorite
albums. It's one of my favorites I ever recorded.
Four Tet - "As
Serious as Your Life (Remix, feat. Guilty Simpson)"
As Serious as Your Life 12-inch (Domino, 2003) | iTunes
KIERAN HEBDEN: My record company asked me if I wanted to get any remixes for my album
Rounds. I instantly suggested Jay Dee, thinking it was deeply unlikely.
Domino tracked down his manager, sent him the music and a few weeks later
we heard back saying he was up for doing it (for a very reasonable fee).
A couple of months passed and no remix showed up so we chased his manager.
He came back saying that Jay Dee had been quite sick recently. Not knowing
how serious his illness was, we decided to just wait and see what happened.
Then one day I got a call from Domino saying a CD has turned up in the
post and the remix is wild: it has Jay Dee singing on it and some guy
called Guilty Simpson rapping. He had made the heaviest beat from the
sounds and him and Guilty were rapping amazing lines all over it, stuff
about saxophone reeds and Eddie Murphy's pants. The way he had made the
title of my instrumental track into this huge vocal hook was just too
good. "As Serious as Your Life" a reference to a book about
'60s free jazz, so to hear Dilla sing about something that I associated
with Coltrane and Ayler was especially deep for me.
J Dilla - "Nothing
Like This"
Ruff Draft (Mummy/Groove Attack, 2003 / Stones Throw, 2007) | iTunes
JUST BLAZE: I bought Ruff Draft real late. I listened to it, but then I forgot about
the album for a minute. Most of us don't sit around turntables anymore,
and I didn't have it ripped to my iPod or on CD. One day I was on the
net and found that someone had ripped it. I downloaded it, and when I
was listening to it, I just skipped past that song like, "He ain't
rapping ... Then it hit me. It was hypnotic. I didn't even know what he
was talking about, but it didn't matter. At the end of the beat, he hit
stop on his machine, but the sample played out. I set there for 20 minutes
with that part on loop, trying to figure out what the sample was. He caught
a pert of the record that was so non-descript. That was what was so crazy
about him: he wouldn't use the obvious break. He might use the part right
before or after the break. And the pert he used on that song, I couldn't
figure it out. It drove me crazy for months. Finally I just gave up.
Steve Spacek - "Dollar"
Space Shift (Sound in Color, 2005) | iTunes
STEVE SPACEK: I was recording my solo project in Hollywood, just around the corner
from where Dee and Common lived. We met up at his place, rolled a blunt
end got straight down to it. It was quite surreal, actually. Myself, [manager]
Mr French and Leon Were were rolling together that afternoon. I had met
Jay briefly a few times before in London, but had never really hung out
in a chilled environment. So I say to him, "Jay man, just bless me
with something for my album." And he's like, "Yo, Spacek, I
don't know if I have anything ready for you now," picking up the
remote control for his DAT machine. So he's flicking through this tape,
then he stops, pulls out the DAT and exchanges it for another and resumes
flicking through. Not even a couple of minutes have passed when he lands
on the Billy Paul thing, looks up at me and just lets it roll. As soon
as I hear it, what with the "yeh-yeh-yeh" vocal going through,
I knew that it was the one. We hung out for a little longer, smoked a
bit more, then I heeded back to French's gaff to start writing. A few
verses and a hook later, along with a couple of chops/edits on the two
track, and "Dollar" was done. That afternoon was the last I
saw of Jay.
The Pharcyde - "Runnin"
Labcabincalifomia (Delicious Vinyl, 1996) | iTunes
SLIM KID TRE: We were looking for Q-Tip to do some tracks for us. He couldn't do what
needed to be done, but he said, "You can check my boy," end
we were like, "Okay who is it?" He was like, "Jay Dee."
We didn't even believe Jay Dee existed. Q-Tip's name is Jonathan Davis,
we thought it was Q-Tip pretending that was his little spin-off name.
Q-Tip brought a bunch of beats over, we heard "Runnin" and "Drop,"
it was some incredible shit. Jay Dee came to Los Angeles and he had his
SP1200 and he would just flip these beats like nobody's business. This
kid couldn't fuck up a beat. I gave him one of Vince Guiraldi's Snoopy
loops like, "I always wanted to do something with this," end
he flipped this song called "Splattitorium" end I was like,
"Of course." Fat Lip and I fought physically over the way Jay
Dee originally programmed "Runnin'." Fat Lip went in and reprogrammed
every straight beat because Fat Up was all about having the beats a certain
way. I fought for it to be the way that it was because I was a stickler
about people's creative input - that's what we hired him for. If I didn't
stop that and physically fight this guy for it, "Runnin'" would
have been a different song all together on a spiritual level.
J Dilla - "Love" ft Pharoahe Monch
The Shining (BBE, 2006) | iTunes
PHAROAHE MONCH: His label reached out to me about being part of the Shining project.
He was in the middle of his illness so we didn't meet in person, but we
had met before in California. I usually do all my recording face to face
- I'd been to Detroit a bunch of times to work with my men Denaun Porter,
but never to work with Dilla. We did it all through exchanging files over
the Internet. They sent over some beats end I chose that one. It was soulful
end had the feel that let me rap and sing over it and take it in that
direction. I don't think he gets enough credit for how much he effected
the sound of neo-soul and R&B and music in general so much as he does
for hip-hop.
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